I havent been on a lot lately and I cant answer why I have been drawn back to the Otrib family,is it because it will be 2 yrs on the 16th July that Rudy left with his angels, I have moved slowly forwards and done a lot of firsts on my own,not easy but completed and enjoyed the challenges,of travel,some old friends not around anymore and thats ok with me. My counselor said to make a bucket list of things I want to do,and have done But it always comes back to doing alone hmmm. Jean I dont think it gets easier we just accept some days better than others,Rooney I hear where your coming from Rudy was also my life,I was listening to some music Rudy taped while they were nice bought lots of emotions back into play,maybe thats why I am here,cause I always felt so comfortable. To all please take care sending you some sunbeams to brighten your day hugs Diamond
I dont think it gets easier either, it changes though and I think this is where we either embrace or fall back. I dont accept that Henry has physically gone, obviously I know it and cannot deny it, will never agree with it though does that make sense? I think the grief is always there, its not going anywhere, but it changes into something manageable. Ive said this before and I do think its true, this is how we are able to continue in our lives. I think Diamond is right, making goals for yourself, keeping your dreams and not allowing yourself to lose your dreams along with your partner is a healthy and positive approach. When they pass, it is so easy and natural to see our whole life and future taken from us, when in reality it is still there. Learning to continue 'alone' and do the things we always wanted to do is a very difficult thing without the partner we made half/all these plans with by our side, but is something that will in turn enrich our lives and give us reason to smile again, it can be done with a new attitude, remembering we would want the same for them. Be easy on yourselves, none of us wanted this but we all do so well and have much to live and learn and even enjoy. Thinking of you all and as always wishing you love and strength, Meg.x.
Thanks for the support girls, I just haven't reached the positive state yet. I am so overwhelmed with what has happened and I can't eat or sleep right. I have aged 10 years in the past year. I just miss Jack too much. I never got to say good-bye, I was in a total shock, so unexpected just 2 weeks before he was to retire from his job. I must be a weak person, but I can't get over this. Yes I do most of my chores everyday and I go out and do banking and groceries, but I have no joy. Sorry girls, that is just how I feel. Jean
I never got to say good bye either (Rich's death was totally unexpected) - but I don't think that would make this any easier to bear. But We have to learn how to deal with this new reality. I never wanted to live alone but since I have no choice I'm trying to learn how. I know Rich would want me to be happy again so I will somehow. I know I'll still have ups and downs for a long time but at age 56 I could live a long time yet and I want to be happy again. It won't be the future I dreamt of, but I will try and make it the best I can. Linda
Hi Jean you are not a weak person just being honest with your feelings thats got to be the side of a strong lady I say,I too have aged,not a cougar as they say just older. Jean do you have a journal,start to write only the good days every week, you will be surprised just how forward you are going. Saying good bye comes in many forms not just what we would or could have said,you know Jack listens so maybe you could have a special day just for you and Jack, tell him everything buy some flowers or a plant just for you two. Then Jean the hard part once you have done this dont go back in your mind to that goodbye,tell Jack how much you loved him and will always but for your peace of mind and his its maybe your way of making peace with in yourself too see you can be all you want to live a healthy happy life. I can hear you say But!!!! I want Jack I know sweetie but you have him still just different
Thank you diamond for the positive words and encouragement. I talk to Jack all of the time, the only trouble is he never answers me. I have been working on his fish pond in the back yard and for Mother's Day my son planted flowers all around the pond and it does look beautiful. I am trying so hard to make a new life, but I don't like this life. It is getting warm now in Ohio so I am hoping the better weather will give me a new outlook. Thanks to all of you who share on here, Jean
Hi everyone, i think we all try in our own ways some days are better then bang i seem to get knocked back again, i do try and do things but for me it always comes back to being alone and he's gone. I have a picture of Dom on my bedside table and before i go to sleep every night i talk to him and kiss him good night, was talking about it at work and somebody told me that while i'm doing that i will never let go. i wanted to scream that them guess what i don't want to let go its all i have left, she still has her partner. My feeling is i will never get over it, hope one day i will learn to live with it. xxx
Oh Rooney, we won't get over but you are right one day we will learn to live with it..For me I do not have a choice I have children to raise..But everyday is hard..Please take care.. cecilia
Some would say we have to 'let go' in order to heal, Ive also had it said to me. Well, 'letting go' didnt sit right with me, the idea of 'letting go' seemed useless to me like I was to forfeit (spelling) what I held dearest to me. My solution was to not listen and to allow myself to hold on, hold on tight, not in a negative or detromental way to myself, just in any way that made me smile, or feel comfort, or remember times and laugh or think of moments that reminded me how loved I am, how special we were/are. I held on in all the ways that felt good and brought that personal closeness back with Henry and I, the closeness I thought died when he passed over, but realise now it is mine to keep, its ours forever. Its our time, our bond our love our closeness our memories....some feel they have to 'let go', which is fine, some of us will be told that we must let go and feel pressured to do so. No-one can be told how to handle their grief and I dont think 'letting go' brings comfort, I knew it wouldnt for me anyway. What brings the most comfort to me is acknowledging and feeling that the spirit is eternal and though we cannot see our loved ones, they are here with us because though our paths are different now, they remain parralell to one another, we were supposed to be together and that's how it is eternally, just different. Hope I make sense, I dont know if Ive helped, to me being told to 'let go' or 'accept' are the two things that will never sit right because we are still in the physical world and I will never want to 'let go' and I will never actually 'accept' that I will never see or touch or hear Henry again in THIS lifetime. Re-learning to live, to live differently, to carry him with me, these things sound and are possible given time and the right support. Keeping you all in my thoughts and sending love and strength, Meg.x.
Yes, Meg, I agree. Feeling better has nothing to do with me 'letting go' of Leon. For me that would be a denying and pushing away of my own life and the huge experience of someone I loved and spent 28 years with. I don't believe it possible anyway. It would just come back and then I'd think I had to reject it again. In fact I think for me the healing happens around being able to celebrate him more. Gradually to think of him fully without having to push it away because it's so painful. I can do this a bit now. I couldn't before, it was just excruciating. I do 'accept' that he is dead, otherwise why would I be in such pain? But I'll never 'accept' that he is gone out of my life. It is the re-learning to live that is such a struggle. Suddenly having to create new routines and habits and find support outside your home instead of having it right in there with you. This is what makes it so hard when we aren't used to living this way. Making something of our lives on our own and trying to find meaning and happiness in that. Kia Kaha (strength) to everyone. Love Rachel
Hi Cricket, that pretty much says it all, it is hard but we have to sift through the good, bad and ugly to find what it is that works for us. We take our own time and must find our own way but we do need to find a way to live again and as you say find meaning and happiness. Thinking of you, Meg.x.
Hi everyone, i will never let go of Dominic i will love him and need him for the rest of my life, i do agree its a hard learning to live with out him. I feel at peace at the minute have done for the last few days trying not to make to much of it just go with it, because usually what happens is i go down hill after so trying not to think about it. Peace and strenght to you all x
Hi Rooney, am still here, just been wallowing in other parts. I know those times of peace for you will in time last longer and longer, the missing never goes but some form of peace is never too far. Keeping you in my thoughts and sending you love too, Meg.x.
Have been trying to get myself together, last time i was here was at peace then it all fell apart all i've done is my best to get through each day, go to work come home and sit alone its all i seem to do, didn't even want to come on otrib and have been checking into this site for about 18months without this site don't know where i would be, trying to pick myself up, Rooney x
Hi everyone I see the last time I was on in May,felt positive and calm trying to stay focused and live in the present but! tonight wham just not coping tired of being alone,smiling trying to move forward its damn hard work anyways guess we got no choice take care Diamond
It is very hard at times. I've heard it called "grief work" and for good reason. Sometimes we just have to take a little R&R like soldiers on the battleground and go back and fight again. We must see something better for ourselves or hope for something better or we wouldn't fight so hard. Hang in there, girl.---Gloria
Hi everyone, your right Diamond it is hard work trying to get yourself through every day, some times i wonder how i got to where i am today, my answer is i don't know but at least i'm here. Had a friend the other day suggest i go on a singles holiday, why would i want to do that all i would think is Dominic should be with me and would feel more alone, know she was only trying to help but they don't understand. x
finding someone new is no-ones choice but our own, we will do it or not do it. Still find it amusing (for lack of a better word) how others act like we need to be 'fixed up', I feel less need to be with someone than more. No, they dont understand, this is what it always comes back to. Wishing you all love, Meg.x.
No other guy for me here. I had the best, not at all interested, my friends keep telling me I should find someone else, like they can be replaced like an appliance or something. Not that easy and i am not at all interested even at 15 months. I will always be in love with Jack, always. Jean
Hello Jean, I understand what you are saying. My mother died when I was 10 years old, my father was 49. He was the best father in the whole world, loving and kind ,he raised me with a little help from my 3 maiden aunts. There was never another woman in his life but at the time I was to young to question why. Many years later I asked him that very question. By that time I think I already knew the answer. He said he had had the very best, no one could ever take my mothers place, no one ever did. I have a feeling I will follow in my fathers footsteps, I can't say I remember how he grieved for my mother in the early years, I was too young. What I do remember was the peaceful, loving, kind and most of all contented man he continued to be for the rest of his life. I long to find that contentment within, he still gives me hope. I have read everything I can on grief over the last 5 months, that process has helped me to understand that the feelings we share are "normal" however, that in itself doesn't heal the sorrow. Now I read all I can on enlightenment, I hope this will take me forward, I want to make it on my own, heal myself, no one can do that for me, reading and learning really helps me to get through, some days, better than others now. My hope is to find that inner peace which is elusive at present. I know that is the key. I am still in love with my husband, I miss him every hour of every day. Yesterday was my birthday, the first without him for as long back as I can remember, it hurt. I read and re read old birthday cards he'd sent with love over the years,his familiar handwriting looked so fresh as if they had been written that very day, the love, the sentiments, so obvious in those cards really managed to carry me through the day, that same night they tore me apart. LindaG
I agree - I can't imagine marrying again - I would always be comparing them to the best man I've ever known. Now my challenge is to heal myself. Like LindaG I've read a lot of grief books, now I'm also moving on to "How to handle Life" and am struggling with finding peace and contentment again. It's been a year - and I still have some very rough times but when I look back on where I was last July I'm getting better. I find it so hard to do everything alone after 35 years of love and companionship but I will have to learn how. Linda
LINDAG, Happy belated birthday. I had my first birthday, without Nick, this past June. I kept the cards he gave me. He was always so proud that he picked out just the right card. He would spend alot of time picking it out. And he did a great job! Marry again? Probably not. No desire to start all over again. I am taking this time to spend more time with my friends and family. No plans for the 4th, but thats OK. I will find something to do. Your friend in sorrow, Susie
I am so in love with him and always will be. No way will there be anyone else for me.
I was only thinking the other day and wondered if I should’ve seen this coming or is it just coincidence? ……. that both my husband’s mom and her mom (his grandmother) were widowed in their fifties. Neither ever remarried. My mom and her mom (my grandmother) were also widowed in their fifties. Neither also ever remarried. Now it's my turn ...
I hope one day to live a life without this sorrow and despair and I also choose not to betray love or loyalty for my husband to the end of my days ...........as his death for me is not the end of our relationship.
Thank you Susie and Cal, I told myself it was just another day on the calendar but somehow that didn't work. I'll be thinking of you on the 4th Susie, Wishing you peace and strength, LindaG
Hi to all of you, The 4th was always one of my husband's favorite holidays. Our local college at the end of the street put on a huge firework's display and people would come from miles around to see them. Our street was flooded with cars and we would all put our lawn chairs out there and watch the fireworks. Jack would like to cook out and we would have all the kids over and some neighbors and of course blow off fireworks while we were watching the real ones. Just another day to most people but to us every holiday is a reminder of what we don't have. I even have 6 grandchildren and 2 grown children and they don't even begin to fill the void. I can't stand this loneliness and I wish I could be with Jack. The thought of living like this for maybe another 25 years scares me. I have two prayers though, that as long as I have to live and live alone, please let me remain healthy (other than the usual arthritis and aging) and please let me have a wonderful dream about him that I remember. Prayers to all of you in these most difficult of days.
I was invited to a 4th of July party today. I almost declined because I've never had to go anywhere by myself before now, Rich was always here to go with me. But I decided I was going to have to learn how to walk into a gathering by myself someday. It was so hard to do, even though I've known all these people for years. I did OK though and I think every time I do someting by myself it will get a little easier. Learning new habits and ways of doing things is so hard. But I looked around the gathering and in the group of people, there was 1 other widow, 1 widower, 1 couple who had lost their son in the last month and 1 woman who's son was severely brain damanged in a car crash and will never be normal again. If all these other people could survive and be there with a smile on their face I could learn to do it too. One tiny step forward for me. Linda
Went for a walk to night weather in England really good we have to make the most of it when we get it, sat on a bench near a riverside watched the ducks couples going by happy laughing, it seems to me whatever you do always comes back to missing Dom and being alone. xx
Hi Rooney That would have been so nice being out doors,with nature and the river heh girl you made a special night just for you. yep we are always alone physically but not in spirit our guys are always watching over us thats why I behave ( chuckle) there will be more days and nights like that for us all,good on you girl.
sorry guys, reading 'miss me but let me go' helps me in these times. I havent been posting much and feel Im of no help anyhow. I have so much going on and feel turned inside out. It is true I have found peace with Henry, I havent been lying to you, its just Im still only human and I miss him so very much. Sometimes feel ashamed to still say it, but I know you know I always will miss him as you do your love. No, it never goes away, but I guess that just means nor does the love, which is what I hang onto. Love and strength to all .x.x.
There is never any shame in missing someone Meg.I think it would be a shame if we ever forget which can never happen ..right? I miss you here and I am sure others do too. You don't have to write in simply for others you could just write in for you, if it makes your day better. as you are often fond of saying "It is never expected but trully appreciated" Let it flow is the motto (smile) With Love, Fauziah.
hahaha, yes, that is a fond one of mine isnt it? shame was of course the wrong word, heavyhearted maybe, you know you will always always miss them and sometimes typing or saying out loud just one more time feels too hard. Cant believe I typed shame, sorry, not at all what I meant. Sometimes to feel it is all you can take and after time passes you do start to feel you should just automatically cope with it.....but you just dont. Not making sense, but know what I mean. Wishing love and strength, Meg.x.
Hi everyone, sounds like we are all in the same depressed boat. Wish the dock was at least 5 minutes with our loved ones who have gone on ahead. All I want to do is look into those baby blue eyes and see them smile at me and hug him hard for 4 minutes. I told that to my parish priest and he said "just wait til you get there and you will have eternity with him". I wonder since the Bible says there will be no husband and wife in heaven. How could he do that when God is Love? I miss Meg's insightful wisdom, but she is human just like the rest of us. I have had 2 bad days missing my man. After 33 yrs. of married life, sleeping alone is not cutting it, but I will never get another one, like you we have all had THE best men in the world. Grandkids can't take the place of one you shared so much with. Tried very hard to get my daughter to say she loved me, couldn't look me in the eye and say it. I know how she feels about me and I hate it but it's her problem not mine. even her 2 & 4 yr.olds noticed!! Love to all, Dar
Had to go to the hospital a few days ago in which my Dominic died, it wasn't in the actual hospital but a department round the back, always said i would never go because i blame the hospital for Doms death. Never again all the memories came flooding back just travelling over there, at least i got my appointment over with. Since my visit have been all over the place my anxietys not good i think with that and the annivesary coming up not helping, but i'm trying
It's good to hear from you on here Dar, Im sorry I dont seem to have much to say these days. I never saw it as insightful, just feelings and trying to work through. I am feeling ok in regard to Henry, sometimes absolutely NOT, but mostly I get it and know he's with me. My life now and the impact is what I struggle with, I know to continue with small steps forward, never back. I know he will help me every step and I know our love is forever...I know and feel enough of this to feel I can make it. Henry remains my Superman! Rooney, Its hard travelling or walking any of the same roads or paths, near doctors or hospitals or pharmacies we were regular at. I know I dont blame the hospital, that must make it even harder, but its still no good. Glad your appointment is over with, get through the next weeks and know my thoughts are with you, you will be ok. Sending you much love, Meg.x.
My Dominic was a bright,warm and beautiful person and i cherish the life i had with him, i miss him so very,very much. He was beacon of light and i will love him always. For my Dominic which will be 3yrs on 4th August.
Hi, it doesn't get any better does it. So sorry rooney, 16 months for me since Jack died and it is just as tough as ever. I wish someone would tell me how to get better. I shower, dress, accept invitations, go with my kids, clean my house, do all my own things, other than paying for some man jobs, but it doesn't get easier. The pain just won't let up of losing Jack. So sorry rooney, will be thinking of you on August 4th. Jean
In his book "The Prophet", Kahlil Gibran wrote of 'pain'. He said:
"Your pain is the breaking of the shell that encloses your understanding, Even as the stone of the fruit must break, that its heart may stand in the sun, so must you know pain. And could you keep your heart in wonder at the daily miracles of your life, your pain would not seem less wondrous than your joy. And you would accept the seasons of your heart, even as you have always accepted the seasons that pass over your fields. And you would watch with serenity through the winters of your grief. Much of your pain is self-chosen It is the bitter poison by which the physician within you heals your sick self. Therefore, trust the physician, and drink his remedy in silence and tranquility: For his hand, though heavy and hard, is guided by the tender hand of the Unseen, And the cup he brings, though it burns your lips; has been fashioned of the clay which the Potter has moistened with His own sacred tears"
I have quoted this passage here in hope that when we feel/ reflect on our pain that we can try to remember that pain is what it is, we are who we are. we don't have to be attached constantly to our pain, we can find new attachment in remembering only the love. Sending healing prayers of peace and strength, With love, Fauziah.
Fauziah, I read the passage and couldn't stop the tears i hope one day to be able to feel that, some times i feel i'm trying so hard and getting know where. Came through the anniversary and now all i see is another year to try and rebuild my life. I go to is grave every week and still it feels not real to me at times if that makes sense. Meg hope your doing o.k x Thinking of you all Rooney xx
Hey Rooney, doesnt seem real to me either after all this time, I know it is, I know what is but rather than feeling Henry is 'dead', I feel he is around. I still feel I am a reflection of his love, I only want to live and show love, anything else feels a waste. He brings me so much and continues to light the way through all my troubles, I honestly dont know what I'd do without him!! To be able to feel that way says it all, he's not gone. Thinking of you and sending you love, Meg.x.
Hello all, Meg, I feel the same way you do. Ed's birthday this year was very hard at night, but around 1 AM I could feel him lying in bed next to me, I "sunk" into his side. It was a great feeling and I didn't dare try to turn over. It always makes him leave!! If only we could have them come back for about 5 minutes a year. Just to hold them and look into their sweet faces, not to say anything just "BE". But maybe that would be worse than nothing at all. I know he helps his nephew who is renting my farm. He says when he has trouble he prays to God and Ed and things always work out for him or he finds the part that he dropped on the ground. My Ed was a sweet heart and loved to talk to anyone, know that he is talking to all your loved ones who have passed on and if they loved to play pitch, you can bet they are having one heck of a game up there. One night I dreamt that he was glowing and dressed in gold and red garments. No bald spots and no big tummy and he could get up from a kneeling position just like a 2 yr. old. Ahh, love is a great thing. I miss all my friends but summer has been screwy with my brother here after a 34 yr. absense. My father's health is failing and has to have repeat surgery on his left leg cuz of clogged blood vessels. Work starts next week also. gonna be good to make a pay check again. Love to All, Dar
Dar if only we could have that 5 mins year just to have them back, i would give anything to have that with my Dominic to hold him to tell him how much i love him and to see is face again, i'm crying again its all i seem to be doing just lately. Meg hope your o.k, i'm mailing you but seems for sime reasin your not getting it xx
Hi to Dar Regie and Rooney I too would like that 5 minutes but as you said would never be enough,I know I am doing the best with my life,I have moved to Bribie near the water and the days are getting better,Rudy creeps in when I least expect but its ok I handle those times some sad some happy. Wanted to tell you we had a garage sale as my son has all Rudy's tools, well strange thing he was sorting the tools and kept hearing foot steps in his home, his son and partner both sleeping well! after checking inside and out several times said to his dad ok so I know your here,put on a warm jacket he had off Rudy's and he said all was good, and my son felt very comfortable it made us both feel good knowing Rudy still watching over us. Its warming up in sunny Queensland so sending you all a big hug sun and moonbeams Diamond
I don't post often because the raw pain of others starting the journey of grief is to much, and I have worked hard emotionally to where I am, and its very easy to slip back hope you all understand.